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  1. Illegal_Demon

    Welp, this isn't good for prospective Demon 170 owners...(Unifor on Strike)

    As of midnight tonight Unifor workers are on strike in Canada. For those waiting for their Demon to get built before the Brampton plant permanently turns into a pumpkin for the Challenger platform, this is bad news. No other way to spin it, unfortunately. I'm very thankful that my allocation...
  2. Illegal_Demon

    Demon 170 Gas Guzzler tax just jumped from $2100 to $3700

    Got an update from my dealer who informed me that my price went up by 1600 due to (mid-year?) Gas Guzzler increase... Guv wants it's pound(s) of flesh! I wonder if this was specific to D170 orders?
  3. Illegal_Demon

    This is why the SC Hemi is sunsetting...

    interesting to see all the OEMs on one CAFE chart. Stellantis is in dead last. Ford and GM are not far behind. This video has lots of parallel factors impacting the Charger/Challenger platform. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/21/why-gm-is-sunsetting-the-classic-chevrolet-camaro.html
  4. Illegal_Demon

    I think some of us take for granted just how INSANELY complex it is to build a car from scratch

    You gotta watch this. I know some on here have manufacturing backgrounds so I apologize in advance if this puts you to sleep. For me, and I suspect others, it drives home the point that maybe we should be a bit more tolerant and patient when it comes to submitting an order and expecting a...
  5. Illegal_Demon

    Charity Demon 170 Auction at Barrett Jackson (June 22-24)...Custom paint ?!

    "The winning bidder of this charity auction will be able to customize their Challenger from all available factory options, as well as the exclusive opportunity to select a custom exterior color, thus giving them the opportunity to make this truly a one-of-one vehicle." CF Wheels? Custom paint...
  6. Illegal_Demon

    Demon 170 VONS and VINS now coming out...

    With ordering closed as of 5/15, Dodge started issuing VONS and VINS. According to some folx, it appears that the first to be issued (built?) will be Vin-Matched orders and VIP (RFJ) cars. Several such examples have posted on the interwebs. After June 1, other orders are supposed to get...
  7. Illegal_Demon

    Dodge's new EV Forum!

    I'm expecting a HUGE push from this forum over there in a few short months!! https://www.dodgeevforum.com/
  8. Illegal_Demon

    The only F8 Illegal Demon built

    First time I’m actually seeing this car. I was waiting for it to pop up somewhere. Dodge tried very hard to stop him from doing this build. Only 40 such “ illegal” Demon color combinations made it out of Brampton. Maybe in this particular case the owner should have listened to Dodge? 😂...
  9. Illegal_Demon

    A question I would love to hear Tim K. answer...

    So with SRT pushing the envelope on what an OEM could produce and still be street legal in 2018 with the Demon, then somehow upping the ante by more than 1s in the 1/4 mile and almost 200hp five years later with the D170, I would love to ask him if Dodge left ANYTHING on the table with this...
  10. Illegal_Demon

    After 2 weeks of serious nail biting...Today I finally joined the D170 owner ranks!

    To anyone following my saga, today turned out to be a very good day... I got my D170 order verified and submitted. Butch Hora and his dealership are an honest bunch. It took a while for top-level ownership (they are part a National dealership conglomerate) to agree to the deal Butch and I...
  11. Illegal_Demon

    Will the D170 have red or black calipers? 🤔

    OG had red but the sold order pics I’ve seen show black calipers. Anyone have any intel on this?
  12. Illegal_Demon

    Poll: If you Vin match, will the 170 be identical to the OG?

    Besides the poll do you think long-term value matters if it's an identical twin or just "simply" vin-matched?
  13. Illegal_Demon

    Poll: A pair of Vin-Matched (twin) OG/170 Demons or two D170s?

    No. I don't have a D170 yet. Just throwing a hypothetical fun poll out there. Which would you pick and why? Which do you think would be more valuable? Now and say 5 years from now?
  14. Illegal_Demon

    2023 Hellcat Jailbreak available - Recently canceled order

    Disclaimer: I have no connection to this car. I was speaking to a buddy earlier today and he told me the sad story of how his dealership had to refund the guy who ordered this 2023 Jailbreak. His loss will be someone else's gain. It became available this morning (Hall Dodge in Va Beach). Ask...
  15. Illegal_Demon

    At LV reveal. Car 7 pics !

    Ok I’m here with @Sonny85. We are in LV Car 7….
  16. Illegal_Demon

    Ruh-Roh....EVs already getting prices slashed!

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-cuts-mustang-mach-e-prices-following-tesla-price-drops-162211985.html
  17. Illegal_Demon

    My son's calculus teacher is a MOPAR gearhead...lol!

    My son is taking Calculus I at the University of Colorado and sent me this in a text tonight... PS show your work if you plan to answer! :LOL:
  18. Illegal_Demon

    What's going on with Car #7 (a semi-objective analysis)...

    Ok I have done a lot of work on this topic. Mainly because I want one (at a great price). I've called and emailed over 150 dealers at night and over the past couple of weekends. Some basics many already know... 1. Only the top 500 Dodge dealerships (based on 2021 overall sales) will get ANY...
  19. Illegal_Demon

    Latest "Last Call" Car

    King Daytona Charger So mostly another paint, stickers, and wheels release. Yawn.....Article says its "5 of 7". I guess I missed the other 4, lol. I'm starting to think the #7 might not be all that. Guess we will find out soon. Number 6 comes out on Monday. Neon SS...


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