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[rookerrobert]

yes sir you are correct....I also think it's stock cam I have friend that has 16 just like mine and I know it's stock. But the problem mine having those lt headers and super 10 flowmasters it's so darn loud it's hard to tell.....but you can still tell there's not much lope it just sounds stock just loud. I think the tuner is having trouble with the fuels trims being to wacky acting....and A firend of mine seen logs on mine a couple month's ago and said the same.

 

[Piening2150]

 

[ChargerChallenger]

 

[ACMAVRO]

Post up your logs, there are ones here that may be able to help. Also was wondering how your upper and incognito lower combo was working out as I’ve thought about adding a conservative upper to mine and have seen some others doing it.

 

[rookerrobert]

Post up your logs, there are ones here that may be able to help. Also was wondering how your upper and incognito lower combo was working out as I’ve thought about adding a conservative upper to mine and have seen some others doing it.

the upper and the sleeve game me 17lbs. and I have heard it's the limit....but as far as the car goes it runs well but....getting it tuned now and the tuners is having trouble not knowing what that has been done maybe something internal (cam) but he's very good and will work it out. I kinda wish it has been stock that way I could add what I wanted

 

[ACMAVRO]

I took a peek and I'm def no expert but does look like something is going on with fuel. I cant tell your fuel pressure or pump dc. @jonx96 @Hpindy @Speedy! @16GoManGoHC2 maybe can point you in right direction

 

[fumanchu182]

Ill be looking in a few need coffee first.

 

[jonx96]

Well I only had 5 minutes to look I have a meeting starting in 1 minute. Stop going wot your injector duty cycle is way to high. You need bigger injectors. I'm not in love with the lean fuel trims but they arent bad enough where I'm that concerned. Unless I'm missing it you need to log WB Lambda. I saw you hit 108% duty cycle. Scary

 

[ACMAVRO]

Well I only had 5 minutes to look I have a meeting starting in 1 minute. Stop going wot your injector duty cycle is way to high. You need bigger injectors. I'm not in love with the lean fuel trims but they arent bad enough were I'm that concerned. Unless I'm missing it you need to log WB Lambda. I saw you hit 108% duty cycle. Scary

Oh shit I didn't see the end

 

[moparjim]

I'm just learning but the bypass valve looks to be opening to save things until the injector DC gets back to safe then repeat the process.
That is what my car was doing with no mods.
You should add the fuel pump info if you can.

 

[fumanchu182]

In this state it is unsafe to keep doing WOT pulls.

Well I only had 5 minutes to look I have a meeting starting in 1 minute. Stop going wot your injector duty cycle is way to high. You need bigger injectors. I'm not in love with the lean fuel trims but they arent bad enough were I'm that concerned. Unless I'm missing it you need to log WB Lambda. I saw you hit 108% duty cycle. Scary

It got worse he went full on pop piston mode 117%. I am attaching channels you should log. You are missing some fueling components that will help you determine how stupid lean you are (which you are). Now this goes with a caveat. Some channels on my PCM may be different than yours, you might have to go back into the channel editor and go find them again. Also I am perplexed as to why your pressure ratio is 2.17. That is way more than stock boost. (2.17 * 14.7) - 14.7 = 17.199lbs, can you send us a picture of your pulley and crankpulley/dampener?

 

[jonx96]

I'm half tempted to send you my phone number and do some sort of video call with you.
I bet @fumanchu182 adds them for you but I don't think I'd go wot again to even test until you at least get a set of injectors. You need the below tables added at a minimum. Who is your tuner? If you sent him this log and he is continuing to tune you need to find a new tuner ASAP!
Edit- Also add Fuel Mass Cyl 1 when you get new injectors

 

[jonx96]

Here you go be good if all you are running is 93. You still may run into some fuel pump issues at that boost level and 93. The pumps tend to get weak over time. On 93 a BAP is fine if still needed after injectors.
https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/id1050-injectors-used.9963/

 

[Hpindy]

I took a peek and I'm def no expert but does look like something is going on with fuel. I cant tell your fuel pressure or pump dc. @jonx96 @Hpindy @Speedy! @16GoManGoHC2 maybe can point you in right direction

I will take a look as soon as I get home to my car laptop. ( yes my car has its own laptop)

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[Hpindy]

I'm just learning but the bypass valve looks to be opening to save things until the injector DC gets back to safe then repeat the process.
That is what my car was doing with no mods.
You should add the fuel pump info if you can.

Here you go be good if all you are running is 93. You still may run into some fuel pump issues at that boost level and 93. The pumps tend to get weak over time. On 93 a BAP is fine if still needed after injectors.
https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/id1050-injectors-used.9963/

In my opinion the ID 1050 / FIC 1000 injectors are the best all around injectors for most hellcats on the road even stock cars. They are easy to tune and have decent amount of head room in them .

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[ACMAVRO]

Here you go be good if all you are running is 93. You still may run into some fuel pump issues at that boost level and 93. The pumps tend to get weak over time. On 93 a BAP is fine if still needed after injectors.
https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/id1050-injectors-used.9963/

I believe he is looking for some
(1) WTB - hellcat injectors at least 1050 or larger | SRT Hellcat Forum

 

[rookerrobert]

I just installed demon injectors....what I found out is the injectors in the car with that log was 525cc....I bought the car used and I think someone just threw those injectors to sell or trade it. The demon injectors are only 700cc but they should help. The tuner is doing the best he can but and he knows the fuel is wacky even with the new injectors. It having a 2.85 upper and incognito sleeve it's putting out around 17lbs. and I know thats not good in it's self

 

[rookerrobert]

View attachment 57505

In this state it is unsafe to keep doing WOT pulls.



It got worse he went full on pop piston mode 117%. I am attaching channels you should log. You are missing some fueling components that will help you determine how stupid lean you are (which you are). Now this goes with a caveat. Some channels on my PCM may be different than yours, you might have to go back into the channel editor and go find them again. Also I am perplexed as to why your pressure ratio is 2.17. That is way more than stock boost. (2.17 * 14.7) - 14.7 = 17.199lbs, can you send us a picture of your pulley and crankpulley/dampener?

I keep trying to add what you sent but....I'm not computer savy. I downloaded it but cant figure out how to get in on scanner

 

[fumanchu182]

One moment lemme grab my laptop

 

[fumanchu182]

I just installed demon injectors....what I found out is the injectors in the car with that log was 525cc....I bought the car used and I think someone just threw those injectors to sell or trade it. The demon injectors are only 700cc but they should help. The tuner is doing the best he can but and he knows the fuel is wacky even with the new injectors. It having a 2.85 upper and incognito sleeve it's putting out around 17lbs. and I know thats not good in it's self

Demon Injectors will 100% not support that amount of boost period. Your stock fuel pump will not support that boost period. This is an all stop 🛑🚫⛔, you will kill your motor.

So to load the file I gave you, please extract the zip file to a location of your choosing, Desktop or My Documents, make note of the location. Then open VCM Scanner, do not start logging.