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HP Tuners added tables to a new beta they sent me. All of my old reads not have the new tables shown. I think I found a glitch though when working with injector data. I was using the graph I created to multiply by half to get started and it changed the fuel mass in the opposite direction. I'm going to email them about it. Pretty quick turn around once I opened the second ticket.
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Wow that's pretty good service. I'm kinda surprised they fixed it honestly.
 
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Wow that's pretty good service. I'm kinda surprised they fixed it honestly.
I told them I was very pleased with the turn around time. That was amazing 24 hours after sent to engineering. If only that first tech would have sent it to engineering the week before. But o well.

I have the injectors close enough to drive around. I have been wot a few times.

Only issue I’m having now if I go into 7th or 8th gear the car stumbles afr shoots up to 10.5 or 11 and feels like it is trying to go into deceleration. If I run it in track mode it doesn’t come out of 6th and has no issue. That may be a thread on it own I need to look into.
 

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So you have all the stoich tables now to set the AFR gauge up on E85?
 
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So you have all the stoich tables now to set the AFR gauge up on E85?
Yep. I have the missing tables now and have updated them.
I would think I missed something if 1 through 6 weren’t fine.
Go into 7th and AFR goes as if I am decelerating. It maintain speeds but feels terrible.
 

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Must be rpm and or aircharge related?
 
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I found the issue I am still missing a table. I didnt think that table was needed. But it is. Sent a request to hp tuners. Rain tomorrow but if I dont hear back from them by Thursday I'm just going to go to the original plan of flashing the computer at the dealer
 

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Which one was the problem?
 
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Which one was the problem?
Bank 1 lean far, bank 1 rich far - I’ve requested these to be added.

the bank 1 control goal are the tables they added and I adjusted to get it working as I did.
I originally requested all these tables so we will see if they do.
 

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Where'd you end up? All good?
 
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Where'd you end up? All good?
Funny you say that I just got home from the dealership. The dealership is unable to flash anything in my car besides the newest available os. The service manager ended up calling dodge and they would have to send an engineer out to flash me to AG.
i ended up being a little sick for the last week (better now) and installed an underground fence for the dog so I didn’t get to mess with it much after I had the issue in 7th and 8th gear. hp tuners did add the tables to fix that.
But the issue I am seeing now is with fuel trims on the latest beta version I have to use. I try to dial in injectors but fuel trims are going the opposite way than I expect. I haven’t spent much time looking at this at all I will this weekend. Once I figure out what is actually going on with fuel trims I will open a ticket (if needed). Only way I see this being possible is if the scanner is reading positive and negative wrong. But like I said to early in troubleshooting to say much about that.
I have the tune with the wrong stoich point dialed in really good at this point though. Car is running great and I have called the street tune part of that good.
At this point worst comes to worst I’ll just run that tune with some adjustments at challengerfest.
Wife’s birthday was yesterday so I’m heading out for that and tomorrow going to comb through the tune and make some adjustments to see how I can get fuel trims to go “lean” or “rich”. Could be something I missed. I know I am adjusting fuel mass in the right direction because I’ve done it a million times now for the other tune.
 
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@zhc im curious with the AH OS you said was missing tables do you know when you apply the flex patch do the fans always run and never shutoff?
 

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@zhc im curious with the AH OS you said was missing tables do you know when you apply the flex patch do the fans always run and never shutoff?
I haven’t done flex on that OS so I couldn’t tell ya.
 

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I remember going back & forth in PM with speedy on some of these tables before trying to get ethanol inference dialed in better.

I gave up and went to allpar and let curt finish the car on the dyno. All seems good now.

But my 18 with cruise fix did have table differences vs his car...some were present, some weren't and some were labeled different. Curt stated this was an issue with some OS files when he initially tuned the car too...

After this last round it runs too good to mess with. Screw it. I deleted everything but my most recent 2 tunes and half a dozen logs. Time to enjoy it.
 
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I remember going back & forth in PM with speedy on some of these tables before trying to get ethanol inference dialed in better.

I gave up and went to allpar and let curt finish the car on the dyno. All seems good now.

But my 18 with cruise fix did have table differences vs his car...some were present, some weren't and some were labeled different. Curt stated this was an issue with some OS files when he initially tuned the car too...

After this last round it runs too good to mess with. Screw it. I deleted everything but my most recent 2 tunes and half a dozen logs. Time to enjoy it.
Does your afr display correctly?
 

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Does your afr display correctly?
Always has on flex fuel but I don't remember it doing so on E85 but this time around it read properly for E85 too.

My biggest issue was incorrect alcohol inference which seems to have been resolved by either the retune or a the injector service.
 

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