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This company used to have some lightweight drycell batteries. I don't know what they make now, but here's their link.

https://www.odysseybattery.com/

A bunch of people I knew in Cali were using them in the 90's. The drycell was really light and could start worked 440's pretty easily. Built 5.0's were no problem either.

Take a look and see what they have to offer.
 


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I may have come up with another widget...

Hmmmm....

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I may have more stuff to add to "Occasional Friday Random Parts"...


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Sorry I'm late with a reply.....I was driving back from Chattanooga today. Just got home.

But as always.....bring on the science :cool:
 


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Always thinking...

I really think there's a better answer, a little bit of
Sorry I'm late with a reply.....I was driving back from Chattanooga today. Just got home.

But as always.....bring on the science :cool:

Not much science this time, if I go with this, it's going to be pretty much integration of "stuff".
 


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Always thinking...

I really think there's a better answer, a little bit of



Not much science this time, if I go with this, it's going to be pretty much integration of "stuff".
Cool.....I like Frankensteining things

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How about just using a capacitor, start the car off it, then the alternator will recharge it.
Stupid idea or brilliance?
 


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$800+ to save 20lbs.....$40 per pound? Pass.
 


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How about just using a capacitor, start the car off it, then the alternator will recharge it.
Stupid idea or brilliance?
Great minds think alike I guess. :unsure:;)

But it needs to be a hybrid solution, our cars have a standby requirement that might be too much for just capacitors.

As if I don't have enough irons in the fire.
 


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$800+ to save 20lbs.....$40 per pound? Pass.
Yep that is why I'm looking at cheaper options
 


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May go to walmart today and weigh batteries.:) (who is this guy with a scale:LOL:) The 96R is showing 30-36 lbs depending on site. If it is 30 then 14 lbs out fairly cheaply. The GT350 Mustang stock battery 67r is about 25 lbs with a 390 cca. Found a thread talking about upgrading to a 96r 590 cca around 30 lbs
 


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Went to walmart and weighed some batteries. The 96r and the 58r were both at 30 lbs (scale was not digital) and nearly same dimensions. Both were $99.The 96r you can use the red cover over the positive terminal that comes on the stock battery. The 96r was 590 cca the 58r was 610 cca. I didn't pick one up but have a 15 lbs weight reduction option
 


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Don’t those cca’s seem sort of weak? I think the one in my Roadrunner is something like 775, maybe even more. I don’t know whats stock in the HC’s but that number seems low. If they are on par with what we’ve got, then 15 lbs. off is good. My HC is a ‘15, so I’ll probably be looking for a battery soon...It’s on a CTEK in the NY off season btw.
 


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My DCR setup is 1200cca
 


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Don’t those cca’s seem sort of weak? I think the one in my Roadrunner is something like 775, maybe even more. I don’t know whats stock in the HC’s but that number seems low.
They are, another draw back going to a lighter lead battery. The Hellcats are 700+. The new GT500 gets away with 390 cca with the GT getting only 500 cca. I will not be using it in the winter and only temporary
 


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My DCR setup is 1200cca
For the short time I had the arc angel it was in that area and the car started so fast
 


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How about just using a capacitor, start the car off it, then the alternator will recharge it.
Stupid idea or brilliance?
All the electronics are running off 12volt circuitry which would be my guess you need the 12volt battery in the car. And read about how the new Mustang Mach-E is having major issues with the 12volt battery. The car is charged but yet the 12volt battery is dead and you cannot start the car and or even operate and electronics even thought the car has a 85kw battery in it lol. But the car is designed around the 12volt circuitry to run all the electronics like ICE vehicles.
 


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Remove the trunk carpet, backseat, under hood sound insulation, all free, and i bet a lot more weight reduction than a measly 20 lbs. Makes it better to hear that sweet engine, the golf clubs or bags of potting soil don't care about riding on carpet, and for those who don't have little kids the backseat could cause a problem with creating little kids, so remove it for safety reasons.
 


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Found this from 3 years ago. Someone from antigravity batteries posted this on the GT350 site about the atx20-hd and 30-hd. The 20 is $368 weighs 5 lbs. The 30 is $500 and weighs 8 lbs. My car doesn't sit for more then a couple of days at the most. Now I'm thinking again:unsure:

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What would be the advantage of running the ATx-30? Are both of these suitable for daily driving? Can both run accessories like AC, Radio and Dash cam at same time?​
Good question... While they are both suitable for Daily Driving, the ATX20-HD has 15 real Amp Hours, compared to the ATX30-HD having 24 real Amp Hours. The 9Ah difference is significant for the following reasons.

1- The vehicle can sit in storage longer without the need for being put on a Charger/Maintainer. So if you are not daily driving so much and let the car sit a good few weeks or month or more... then having more Amp Hours is better. The objective is not to have to put your car on a maintainer unless you store it for longer periods.

2-Similar to above, those 9 extra Amp Hours Extra offer more capacity, so if you have a theft alarm, radar detector or Camera attached to your car the extra 9 amp Hours will power accessories like that much longer than a ATX20HD would when the car is sitting undriven. Many people do not really understand that these extra accessories can cause significant Parasitic Drain on a Battery. And being a Lithium Battery has a much lower Amp Hour rating than a Lead/Acid battery in general, these extra 9 Amp Hours give you more CAPACITY to have the Car be left without a Maintainer on it. The additional accessories that can draw energy while the car is not running can really draw down a battery quickly. And with the ATX20-HD you do not have a lot of over-head to power these things that draw energy when the Car is off. But YES both can be used as Daily Drivers with the ATX20HD being something you may want to have on a Maintainer if you have extra accessories such as the aftermarket Alarms, Cameras and such.

3- The 9 extra Amp Hours means a bigger more powerful Lithium Cell-Pack is inside the battery. Which also means a battery that weighs about 2.5 lbs more. To be clear the ATX20-HD will easily rip start the GT350s.... but the extra power with a larger battery inside offers better starting in for Colder Weather, easier turn over on Built Motors, and if you accidentally leave you lights on in a parking lot while at dinner, or your stereo or something you will have extra power to start the car, even if the voltage has dropped more.

4- The last thing is the ATX30HD is a bit more beefed up inside to handle the larger more powerful battery pack inside discharging currents. So many Race cars, or very high-performance Cars can take a lot of turn-overs to prime or start the motor. So the ATX30HD can handle the higher heat that can occur with long turn-overs or difficult to start motors. This should not be a factor in the Mustang, except for built ones or people who are tweaking on their cars more.

So in conclusion the ATX20-HD should be fine for those into racing or daily driving in Moderate weather, provided those who use it understand that a 5lbs Lithium battery is not an infinite supply of power, it is a compact, lightweight battery for Sports Cars that can handle the electronics draw of a stock vehicle without a lot of extra high-draw accessories, or big high wattage stereos. In that use it is fine. Also note that when the car is running, all your accessories are powered by the Alternator for the most part, so the battery won't be affected too much. Its just those aftermarket accessories that create larger draws and are pulling energy from the Battery when NOT driving that can make the ATX20HD not the ideal battery for that type of application with a lot of extra accessories.
 


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Remove the trunk carpet, backseat, under hood sound insulation, all free, and i bet a lot more weight reduction than a measly 20 lbs. Makes it better to hear that sweet engine, the golf clubs or bags of potting soil don't care about riding on carpet, and for those who don't have little kids the backseat could cause a problem with creating little kids, so remove it for safety reasons.
My TAXI needs rear seats. I will not pull the seats out of my car. I have always tried to have a car that can run the same times on the street as it does at the track. I thought it was funny in the late 90's when it looked like a garage sale was going on because the grand prix's would gut their cars at the track. If I had one of those 2 door dodge's I may have done a rear seat delete but not on my TAXI. My car does get some weight reductions at the track with the wheels
 


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My TAXI needs rear seats. I will not pull the seats out of my car. I have always tried to have a car that can run the same times on the street as it does at the track. I thought it was funny in the late 90's when it looked like a garage sale was going on because the grand prix's would gut their cars at the track. If I had one of those 2 door dodge's I may have done a rear seat delete but not on my TAXI. My car does get some weight reductions at the track with the wheels

And I assume that you Don't run much gas in the tank either, gas is really heavy at 6 lbs per gallon.
 




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