Stage kits and pcm

[covidcommander]

Does the stage kit trip that code that means the pcm was unlocked?

 

[2ndAmend]

Assuming you are talking about the DC Stage, I wouldn't think so. It maintains the factory warranty. I assume they (Stellantis/dealers) know everything about the S2 install, it should all be on record.

Is there a way to tell?

 

[fubar569]

Even the installation of the original Demon Crate PCM set a P1400 - I'd have to assume any tune even from the DC kit would also.

 

[covidcommander]

Even the installation of the original Demon Crate PCM set a P1400 - I'd have to assume any tune even from the DC kit would also.

Kinda what I was thinking and it's documented on their end. Same as if the original pcm goes bad and they replace it. It will trip that code. But it's documented.

 

[2ndAmend]

Even the installation of the original Demon Crate PCM set a P1400 - I'd have to assume any tune even from the DC kit would also.

How do you detect a P1400? With an ordinary scanner?

 

[covidcommander]

How do you detect a P1400? With an ordinary scanner?

Need a good one. Cheap one won't find it

 

[2ndAmend]

Need a good one. Cheap one won't find it

You callin' me CHEAP! I paid $19.99 at WM for my scanner!

It has served me well BTW!

 

[fubar569]

My generic Bluetooth and Torque app picked it up but HP Tuners definitely does. The code itself is set to trigger but NOT turn on the MIL light. HPT can change that but also can't say I'd try it.

Also I've heard (rumor) that it's stored in other modules as well but never went looking. Have had it and no warranty since 2019 so...lol

 

[covidcommander]

My generic Bluetooth and Torque app picked it up but HP Tuners definitely does. The code itself is set to trigger but NOT turn on the MIL light. HPT can change that but also can't say I'd try it.

Also I've heard (rumor) that it's stored in other modules as well but never went looking. Have had it and no warranty since 2019 so...lol

Yep shows up in multiple modules and absolutely no way to get rid of it.

 

[Unholy707]

Yeah I guess why does it matter?

 

[Unholy707]

Stage kits come with a warranty, that’s why people get them

 

[MJS73]

The Stage kits do trip the P1400 but your file is noted.

 

[2ndAmend]

Stage kits come with a warranty, that’s why people get them

Not only that.

Since Stage Kits are a Factory Authorized item, it means a couple things:

The kit has been thoroughly tested enough and de-tuned enough to make them feel confident it won't result in warranty repair.

The tune is soft enough to work and not damage the full spectrum of variations of cars in which it is installed.

I will assume DC has access to all the secret code and makes sure it all works happily together.

When a problem arises with the car, the dealer will likely be able to figure it out because all the info about the DC Stage tune is on record and if necessary DC can be contacted for assistance.

If you have a Frankenstein, your options for analysis and repair are limited, which can be a real problem for a non-technical owner.

A prospective buyer may be very hesitant to purchase a Frankenstein, but may likely be much more open to a Factory Authorized Stage.

Yes, an aftermarket tuner will probably give you a faster car for much less $. But there is a lot involved in providing good feedback to the tuner for final adjustments. If the tuner makes adjustments based on feedback, then you later do something different (e.g. tune at the dragway then do a Texas Mile) you are taking a great risk.

The Stage is low risk/low reward, like CD's as opposed to the market. I like the market for $, but I like safe for my HC.